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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 April 2024

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Kurds are not Iranic people. There is a very significant misleading and misinformation on the identity of the Kurdish people. Please re-consider your resources and edit them properly. Mehtap Leyla Turanalp Uysal (talk) 19:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

•  Not done Malformed request without sources. Duplicates discussion above. Discuss with reliable sources in the above section and gain WP:CONSENSUS for change. Currently the consensus of reliable sources does not support this change.

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Map

@Lionel Cristiano, I want to let you know that the WP:BURDEN is on you to provide the sources for the map on Wikimedia Commons. See WP:OR and WP:RS. It is clear that the map doesn't reflect what is on this article. Please self-revert and start a discussion on this talk page per WP:BRD instead of restoring your unsourced insertion. Thank you. Aintabli (talk) 14:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Aintabli, there is map diaspora in all races. I made the map based on the resources here. If u think it's wrong, I can edit it again, but it would be wrong to delete the map completely. Lionel Cristiano^? 14:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Lionel Cristiano

• there is map diaspora in all races.

Frankly, that doesn’t justify adding an unsourced map cross-wiki which disrupts the core verifiability policy of Wikipedia.

• I made the map based on the resources here.

The content on an article can change, and when it comes to such a map, it is imperative to be clear about the sources, which should not be difficult to find. On the other hand, I am repeating myself but the map doesn’t reflect the article fully.

• If u think it's wrong, I can edit it again

My opinions are irrelevant other than it being totally unsourced.

• it would be wrong to delete the map completely

Sorry, but it is not constructive to restore a contested addition. Think as if I added an unsourced statement and reverted your justified revert. It would be disruptive for me to force my favored revision which was contested. Please self-revert per WP:BRD. You can later specify the sources and adjust the map accordingly. Then, feel free to present the new version of the map here. Thank you, Aintabli (talk) 15:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

I deleted the map. Lionel Cristiano^? 15:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Aintabli (talk) 15:11, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 June 2024

The underlying toponym is recorded in Assyrian as Qardu and in Middle Bronze Age Sumerian as Kar-da.[46] Assyrian Qardu refers to an area in the upper Tigris basin, and it is presumably reflected in corrupted form in Classical Arabic Ǧūdī, re-adopted in Kurdish as Cûdî.[47]

Provide scholarly sources for above details rather than tabloids and faux sources.

The name would be continued as the first element in the toponym Corduene, mentioned by Xenophon as the tribe who opposed the retreat of the Ten Thousand through the mountains north of Mesopotamia in the 4th century BC.

NO SOURCE, and FALSE information. HaninGoma312 (talk) 05:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: The source is a book published by the Cambridge University Press. Feel free to reopen if you have a better source. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Map

Personally, a map of where Kurds live or control [including the various factions like the Peshmerga, SDF, PKK and PJAK] should be added. I night make a map for fun once I can. CertifiedKurd (talk) 14:31, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 September 2024

Kurds are a Mesopotamian ethnic group. The Kurds have an older history than Iranians and therefore are considered the indegenious people of the Mesopotamian area alongside with the Armenians, Assyrians & Chaldeans. Jafftribe (talk) 15:39, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ⸺(Random)staplers 17:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)